== Some Family Ancestry== Samuel Powel(III) was the grandson of Samuel Powell(I) and Abigail Wilcox [Samuel Powell's(I) father May Have Been [The Pennsylvania magazine of history and biography, Volume 8, Issues 1-4, Beplies. Samuel Powell (I), (Vol. vii, p. 495). —A. S. M. states that he knows nothing of Samuel Powell's(I) parentage nor whence he came. From some investigations made by me 1 find that he came of a Somersetshire family, many of the name, and apparently his kinsmen, being resident in the parish of North Curry and its neighborhood. Samuel Powell's aunt. Ann Powell, of North Curry, married John Parsons, of Middlezoy, at Greinton, 6 mo. 23, 1685. The places named are in Somerset ( Vide Book A, p. 4, Records, Mo. Meeting of Friends, Arch Street, Philadelphia). Samuel's(I) father was William Powell (died in 1735 (error:This was the date of his sons death), will recorded at Philadelphia). This William had gone up to London before the year 1681. and was then engaged in the cooperage businesss in the suburb of Southwark. He was evidently a man of means, and probably left England chiefly on account of the persecution which it appears befell his family (Vide Besse's Sufferings of Friends, "Powells of Somerset"). He was an original purchaser of land under Penn to the extent of twelve hundred acres and over (Vide Patents, 1081 et seq., Philadelphia)]. His son, Samuel(I), besides inheriting paternal estate, was one of the heirs of his aunt Ann Parsons (will recorded. Philadelphia, Book C, p. 331). He was a great builder—the well-known " rich carpenter" of his day. At his death, in 1756, he left a large landed estate, and the reputation of having been one of the greatest contributors to the growth of Philadelphia, and to its material and moral improvement (Pa. Gazette, July 1, 1756). His wife was Abigail, daughter of Barnabas Wilcox. By her he had a son, Samuel Powel (II) (.tic, one " 1," either for distinction from others of the name or a reversion to the spelling of former generations; vide Besse). This Samuel married Mary, daughter of Anthony Morris. 9 mo. 9, 1732. He was a merchant of Philadelphia, and the grantor of Friends' Meeting, Pine Street. His son was Samuel Powel(III). of Powelton, Speaker of the Assembly, and the patriot Mayor of Philadelphia during the Revolutionary times. Mr. Powel was a man of wealth, culture and influence. He abjured Quakerism, married, but died childless, the last male of his line. His death occurred in 1793.P. S. P. Conner. April 11, 1884. 126 S. Eighteenth St., Phila. More on William: [Replies WILLIAM POWELL Vol VII p 495 Vol VIII p 120 In a very interesting account of Samuel Powell by Mr PSP Conner published in the March number of your Magazine I notice a slight error in the date of the death of his father William Powell The original purchase of land made by William Powell which Mr Conner names was principally located on the west bank of the Schuylkill River opposite what was afterwards known as the Spring Garden District of Philadelphia In the year 1692 he started a ferry from his house on the west bank of the Schuylkill for the accommodation of persons living in the country back of him The ferry however being deemed an infringement of the privileges of Philip England who had previously established one a short distance below a complaint was made during the following year and William Powell summoned to appear before the Governor and Council who restrained him from continuing his ferry In the year 1695 however the Assembly granted him permission to establish a ferry from his house on the west side of the Schuylkill which was afterwards known as the Upper Ferry William Powell had four children of whom we have note John who in 1706 is spoken of as keeping the Upper Ferry Elizabeth Samuel and William William Powell died 2d mo 30th 1721 His son William died in 1735 the date given by Mr Conner]
The Pennsylvania magazine of history and biography, Volume 13 2 Notes and Queries Samuel Powell, Of Philadelphia, Not The Son Of William Powell From Southwark , England.—Until lately, Samuel Powell (I), the noted carpenter and builder of provincial Philadelphia, was considered to be the son of the William Powell,MSB Vol II PSP CONNER. [Let me stop here because P.H.P. Conner is changing his mind about the Ancestry of Samuel Powell. We cannot assume that he was right with his first findings because he was wrong about the death dates he published, all we can say is he uncovered evidence that William Powell was the Ancestor to Samuel, and that evidence was corroborated independently by W.H.J. that had corrected his errors, any other information from Conner is subject to those errors. It is further noted that William Powell 1st Purchaser shared a property border with Barnabas Wilcox.(Samuel II married his Daughter)] Kevin Lajiness (talk) 15:41, 25 February 2012 (UTC)Kevin Lajiness
I am also going to change my mind on the Ancestry of Samuel Powel The Mayor, i have found a more complete history on the family that i feel is accurate, i will be posting it shortly, It shows that William is mot the ancestor, but another amuel Brother to Ann (Powell) Parsons above
ReplyDeleteI believe that the son of John Powell and Ann Havard, John Jr. DID NOT die in 1723. Most testimonies of this circumstance were recorded many, many years after 1723 and the statement was simply duplicated again and again. There is much compelling evidence to support this and here are 10 facts why:
ReplyDelete1) Ann Havard (in 1723 her name was Ann Pugh per her second marriage to David Pugh) stated, likely aware her illness would result in her fatality, that her concern was for the disposition of her SEVEN children in her will. “Seven” children indicated that John Jr. was still alive at the time of her death. http://www.deldot.gov/archaeology/whitehart_powell/pdf/site_histories.pdf
2) If John Jr. was born in 1706 as most people researching him agree, he would have been 16 or 17 at the time, thus making him old enough to decide his own disposition at the time therefore not necessary for his mother to make that decision for him.
3) There was another John Powell in Chester County Pennsylvania, the son of another John Powell and his wife Elizabeth Taylor who died in 1723. Again, I want to reiterate many of these recordings were written many years after the fact further confusing names and events.
4) John Jr.’s brother, David Powell died in 1723 lending to even more room for confusion.
5) William Powell Sr., the first purchaser died in 1721. John Powell {Jr.} is said to have taken charge of the ferry in later years, but it is explained here that the ferry operation was transferred to a new owner after the death of William Jr in 1732. (In a 1903 issue of West Philadelphia Illustrated) Entirely possible and likely that John Jr. decided to go with his Uncle William and Grandfather, William Powell Sr. and join in the family business when he left Tower Hill and his stepfather David Pugh in 1723 at the death of his mother.
6) This John Powell Jr. is likely the same John Powell who was an under sheriff of Lancaster County, PA circa 1735-1736, when Robert Buchanan, the Sheriff, was attacked and beaten (part of the border dispute with settlers who claimed land under Maryland rather than Pennsylvania, before the Mason-Dixon line was surveyed). John Powell gave a deposition concerning the event. Thus, this John Powell was in Lancaster at a fairly early date.
Delete{ General Index To The Colonial Records
By Pennsylvania. Provincial Council, Samuel Hazard, Pennsylvania. Committee of Safety, 1775-1776 Page 304} ………
”Powell, John, &c, petition against
another ferry on Schuylkill, ii.,
277. Ferry not granted, 289.
Under Sheriff of Lancaster coun-
ty, deposition, attack on High
Sheriff Buchanan by persons from
Maryland, iii., 612. “
7) There has been some speculation that ‘John Jr.’ was actually the son of William Powell Jr. who died in 1732. This simply cannot be because William Powell Jr. didn’t marry his first wife Elizabeth Kelley until 1700 which would make John Jr. too young and there is absolutely no record of William Powell Jr. and his second wife Sarah Armitt ever having a son named John; or even William Jr. and Elizabeth Kelley having ANY children.
8) To answer concerns how John Jr.’s line continues, I believe he was the father of Malachi Powell born in Pennsylvania in 1741. (HISTORICAL, BIOGRAPHICAL AND GENEALOGICAL. YOL. II. 1887. TSTn. 5~NOTES AND QUERIES Historical, Biographical and Genealogical. CLXVI.)……….” Both Malachi and William Powell resided iu Upper Paxtang township, now Danphin county, in 1780. For this family are named Powell's Valley and Powell's creek. The original settler John Powell, tavern keeper of Paxtang died in 1748. leaving a wife Margaret, a daughter Nancy and several other children. Thomas McKee and John Allison were executors ot bis estate”……….
There was a tavern is known to have been located by the ‘Upper Ferry’ on the Schuylkill established by William Powell Sr. Certainly it is not unthinkable that John Jr. would have gained some experience there enabling him to run the tavern located in Paxtang.
9) {Pennsyvania Achrives Thrid Series, EDITED BY WILLIAM HENRY HOLE, M. D. HARRISBURG:
Clarence M. Busch, State Printer. 1894) ……..” Alex'r McMunn J.
On Caveat.
Malachi & Jno. Powell | {I’m sure that was supposed to be recorded and written as Malachi & John Powell}
& Hugh McDonald.
On hearing Shitler and McMunn, and inspecting the Papers of Powell, sent to the board, It appears that the improvement made by Peter Graham under which Shitler claimed was made by Graham as a Tenant to William Powell, the Father of John Powell {assumed, more probable his uncle} who has a Warrant and Survey, and hath continued the improvements. That McMunn hath also a Warrant and Survey and hath made considerable improvements. Therefore it is the Opinion of the Board, that Shitlers Warrant ought not to be executed on any lands within the Surveys of Powell, McMunn and McDonald”………………..This clearly illustrates John {John Jr.} and Malachi were father and son.
10) John Powell Jr. was married to Margaret Walton. There son Malachi named the first two of his nine children John and Margaret
I have an Edward Powell, married 1771 in Philadelphia to Mary Keyloe [Keller] of Lancaster. They lived in Philadelphia where their first two children were born. By 1779 they were living in Lancaster and the rest of their children were baptized in the Lutheran church in Lancaster. Sponsors at the baptisms were always Mary's Keller relatives. Who was Edward's father? That question has me stumped for years. Was he one of the "four brothers" of Philip Powell? A British soldier who came over and stayed? A convict who was deported from England? Or???? Any ideas?
ReplyDeletewas Edward powell brother to malachi powell?
DeleteIs there yet any proof that Philip is the son of john and Margaret? I am a direct male descendent of Philip. I have not run across Edward, but will look out for him.
ReplyDeletecurt, I as well am descendant from this line. think it would benefit us both if we were in contact with one another. I have done great research on this line
DeleteKevin, wonderful to see you. The easiest way to find me is probably through Facebook: Curt Powell in Ann Arbor, MI.
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